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		<title>By: Digital Solid: Marketing Technology ROI &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Internet killed the conference</title>
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		<dc:creator>Digital Solid: Marketing Technology ROI &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Internet killed the conference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we still have to physically meet each other. Thinking otherwise is a particularly dangerous form of technological hubris. But meetings of this type have evolved. I first learned about &#8212; and then attended &#8212; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] we still have to physically meet each other. Thinking otherwise is a particularly dangerous form of technological hubris. But meetings of this type have evolved. I first learned about &#8212; and then attended &#8212; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Digital Solid: Marketing Technology ROI &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The new power to get in: Twitter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Digital Solid: Marketing Technology ROI &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The new power to get in: Twitter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Find chances to meet face-to-face. Here&#8217;s the story of my awakening to the potential in a &#8220;Tweet-up.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Find chances to meet face-to-face. Here&#8217;s the story of my awakening to the potential in a &#8220;Tweet-up.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Larche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Larche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, James --

We have a shared passion: creative collaboration. I first picked up Visio, over a decade ago, because I wanted to see if I could use it for collaborative mind mapping, instead of solo charting. (Which, alas, is what Visio does best. I&#039;ve since discovered that mindmapping software like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mindjet.com&quot; target=&quot;new&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MindManager&lt;/a&gt; can better facilitate the type of group brainstorming I was envisioning.)

At about the same time, I was heavily under the sway of Michael Schrage&#039;s &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/No-More-Teams-Mastering-Collaboration/sim/0385476035/2&quot; target=&quot;new&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;No More Teams&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, a book about &quot;Mastering the Dynamics of Creative Collaboration.&quot; His point is self-evident and powerful: Computing was designed for individuals to do individual work. Period. Collaboration was &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; computing&#039;s strong suit, and that holds true for the most part today, 13 years after that book came out.

I was looking at the time for ways accelerate meetings and improve their outcomes ... especially among creative types (I was with a small mar/com agency at the time). 

I had no success, and since then, with the exception of UWM&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cti.sba.uwm.edu/Decision.aspx&quot; target=&quot;new&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Decision Lab&lt;/a&gt;, I&#039;ve not seen anything in action that truly uses computing to bring together people. 

Until, that is, Bucketworks. I think you&#039;re on to something by making the computer &quot;not missing, just invisible.&quot; Meatspace dynamics demand it.

I love the mission of your organization and am excited to see where it leads you. I sincerely believe you guys are making history with this concept. 

Keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, James &#8211;</p>
<p>We have a shared passion: creative collaboration. I first picked up Visio, over a decade ago, because I wanted to see if I could use it for collaborative mind mapping, instead of solo charting. (Which, alas, is what Visio does best. I&#8217;ve since discovered that mindmapping software like <a href="http://www.mindjet.com" target="new" rel="nofollow">MindManager</a> can better facilitate the type of group brainstorming I was envisioning.)</p>
<p>At about the same time, I was heavily under the sway of Michael Schrage&#8217;s <i><a href="http://www.amazon.com/No-More-Teams-Mastering-Collaboration/sim/0385476035/2" target="new" rel="nofollow">No More Teams</a></i>, a book about &#8220;Mastering the Dynamics of Creative Collaboration.&#8221; His point is self-evident and powerful: Computing was designed for individuals to do individual work. Period. Collaboration was <em>not</em> computing&#8217;s strong suit, and that holds true for the most part today, 13 years after that book came out.</p>
<p>I was looking at the time for ways accelerate meetings and improve their outcomes &#8230; especially among creative types (I was with a small mar/com agency at the time). </p>
<p>I had no success, and since then, with the exception of UWM&#8217;s <a href="http://www.cti.sba.uwm.edu/Decision.aspx" target="new" rel="nofollow">Decision Lab</a>, I&#8217;ve not seen anything in action that truly uses computing to bring together people. </p>
<p>Until, that is, Bucketworks. I think you&#8217;re on to something by making the computer &#8220;not missing, just invisible.&#8221; Meatspace dynamics demand it.</p>
<p>I love the mission of your organization and am excited to see where it leads you. I sincerely believe you guys are making history with this concept. </p>
<p>Keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: James Carlson</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Carlson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, I really enjoyed your comparison between DNA and social networks as delivery systems for meat and meatspace interactions. Bucketworks is designed to be the bridging point between cyberspace and meatspace. I&#039;m obsessed with making the computer &quot;go away&quot; at Bucketworks--not missing, just invisible. The room is the computer. Shared interaction is emphasized over solo focus. 

The median between being a complete Luddite and being completely absent from meatspace is probably the healthiest place for us to be as a culture; we can gradually invite the extremes to enjoy the balance.

Thanks for coming and come back often!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, I really enjoyed your comparison between DNA and social networks as delivery systems for meat and meatspace interactions. Bucketworks is designed to be the bridging point between cyberspace and meatspace. I&#8217;m obsessed with making the computer &#8220;go away&#8221; at Bucketworks&#8211;not missing, just invisible. The room is the computer. Shared interaction is emphasized over solo focus. </p>
<p>The median between being a complete Luddite and being completely absent from meatspace is probably the healthiest place for us to be as a culture; we can gradually invite the extremes to enjoy the balance.</p>
<p>Thanks for coming and come back often!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Larche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Larche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Pete. That would be fun. I&#039;ll contact you next week to get your take on what the group would value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Pete. That would be fun. I&#8217;ll contact you next week to get your take on what the group would value.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Prodoehl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Prodoehl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, it was great to finally meet you... We look forward to seeing you at future Web414 meetings. Maybe you&#039;d like to present or lead a discussion on a topic you are interested in...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, it was great to finally meet you&#8230; We look forward to seeing you at future Web414 meetings. Maybe you&#8217;d like to present or lead a discussion on a topic you are interested in&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Larche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Larche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Spike.

And if you&#039;re wondering about the source of that 92% statistic, Spike was kind enough to email a link to its source: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kellerfay.com/&quot; target=&quot;new&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kellerfay.com/&lt;/a&gt;

It&#039;s a statistic we should all keep in mind in these heavily-online times!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Spike.</p>
<p>And if you&#8217;re wondering about the source of that 92% statistic, Spike was kind enough to email a link to its source: <a href="http://www.kellerfay.com/" target="new" rel="nofollow">kellerfay.com/</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s a statistic we should all keep in mind in these heavily-online times!</p>
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		<title>By: Spike Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spike Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks again for coming out yesterday, Jeff. And I&#039;m glad I could add something to the mix. Ninety-two percent of WOM happens offline. The online tactics are great, but I think it&#039;s up to us as communicators to figure out how online supports offline and offline supports online. 

Keep on keepin&#039; on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks again for coming out yesterday, Jeff. And I&#8217;m glad I could add something to the mix. Ninety-two percent of WOM happens offline. The online tactics are great, but I think it&#8217;s up to us as communicators to figure out how online supports offline and offline supports online. </p>
<p>Keep on keepin&#8217; on.</p>
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