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	<title>Comments on: Is the music industry returning to street corner busking?</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff Larche</title>
		<link>http://www.digitalsolid.com/2007/02/23/is-the-music-industry-returning-to-street-corner-busking/comment-page-1/#comment-6019</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Larche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 05:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Lindsay and Clay. 

By the way, Clay, did you hear your friend interviewed recently on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.maximumfun.org/sound-young-america/devos-gerald-casale-and-mark-mothersbaugh-interview-sound-young-america&quot; target=&quot;new&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Sound of Young America podcast&lt;/a&gt;? Really fascinating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Lindsay and Clay. </p>
<p>By the way, Clay, did you hear your friend interviewed recently on <a href="http://www.maximumfun.org/sound-young-america/devos-gerald-casale-and-mark-mothersbaugh-interview-sound-young-america" target="new" rel="nofollow">The Sound of Young America podcast</a>? Really fascinating.</p>
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		<title>By: Clay Konnor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clay Konnor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are now many, many artists that have hit hard without the &quot;benefit&quot; of a record label.  Radiohead is a good example.  More and more artists are now not only eschewing the label but getting rid of the traditional distribution channel as well.  The internet and the way people consume music has enabled this.  Many artists are using sites like ReverbNation to market directly through social media and websites.  

My own band&#039;s first CD which was produced by Butch Vig and was originally on a record label was recently re-released by us, the artist, directly to our facebook page and directly to iTunes.  Oh, and the cost of putting it on iTunes - a whopping $34.00!  

I recently had a discussion with Mark Mogthersbaugh, co-creator of DEVO and composer and producer of many,many television and movie soundtracks. DEVO recently launched their first album in twenty years.  He had a lot to say about the disadvantages of hooking back up with their old label Warner Brothers!!  He said this business has changed so much that there is no need for a label anymore - if anything Warner has only served as a detriment to sales and creative output.

Another recent conversation with my friend who is musical director for American Idol tour indicated clearly that touring is not making many bands money right now, especially large, expensive touring acts.  They guys that are making money at it are bands like Squeeze who are out on a reunion tour playing smaller houses and selling label-less music on both CDs and digital copies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are now many, many artists that have hit hard without the &#8220;benefit&#8221; of a record label.  Radiohead is a good example.  More and more artists are now not only eschewing the label but getting rid of the traditional distribution channel as well.  The internet and the way people consume music has enabled this.  Many artists are using sites like ReverbNation to market directly through social media and websites.  </p>
<p>My own band&#8217;s first CD which was produced by Butch Vig and was originally on a record label was recently re-released by us, the artist, directly to our facebook page and directly to iTunes.  Oh, and the cost of putting it on iTunes &#8211; a whopping $34.00!  </p>
<p>I recently had a discussion with Mark Mogthersbaugh, co-creator of DEVO and composer and producer of many,many television and movie soundtracks. DEVO recently launched their first album in twenty years.  He had a lot to say about the disadvantages of hooking back up with their old label Warner Brothers!!  He said this business has changed so much that there is no need for a label anymore &#8211; if anything Warner has only served as a detriment to sales and creative output.</p>
<p>Another recent conversation with my friend who is musical director for American Idol tour indicated clearly that touring is not making many bands money right now, especially large, expensive touring acts.  They guys that are making money at it are bands like Squeeze who are out on a reunion tour playing smaller houses and selling label-less music on both CDs and digital copies.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsay Stevens Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindsay Stevens Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 19:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George, an answer for the superstar/household artist question is Lisa Loeb for &quot;Stay&quot; in 1994.  She was the first artist to have a number one single while not signed to a recording contract.  Loeb earned the distinction of being the only artist to top the Hot 100 before being signed to any record label.  Cool stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George, an answer for the superstar/household artist question is Lisa Loeb for &#8220;Stay&#8221; in 1994.  She was the first artist to have a number one single while not signed to a recording contract.  Loeb earned the distinction of being the only artist to top the Hot 100 before being signed to any record label.  Cool stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Larche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Larche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, George. Thanks for the comment. I&#039;m not knowledgeable enough to name a superstar or household name launched without support. I would suggest that this is a lot like saying &quot;name a superstar or household name who doesn&#039;t have employees.&quot;

At some point in the trajectory to so-called mainstream success, it&#039;s my understanding that the demands of an audience require delegation. There simply aren&#039;t enough hours in the day to get the job of being famous done without a lot of outside help.

But by definition, superstardom of the Lady Gaga variety is much more rare today than even 15 years ago. &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_albums_(USA)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This list of albums that have gone platinum&lt;/a&gt; reflects what Chris Anderson wrote about in his book &lt;i&gt;The Long Tail&lt;/i&gt;. The air has gone out of the phenomenon of the musician everyone listens to, and the money has gone with it.

This shift has been replaced with more fragmented tastes -- tastes better served financially by a less top-down distribution system and a more networked distribution system.

I would even suggest that Lady Gaga is not earning as much money than, say, Madonna in her prime. 

But I&#039;m not expert. Just an extremely interested bystander. Does anyone in the industry want to comment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, George. Thanks for the comment. I&#8217;m not knowledgeable enough to name a superstar or household name launched without support. I would suggest that this is a lot like saying &#8220;name a superstar or household name who doesn&#8217;t have employees.&#8221;</p>
<p>At some point in the trajectory to so-called mainstream success, it&#8217;s my understanding that the demands of an audience require delegation. There simply aren&#8217;t enough hours in the day to get the job of being famous done without a lot of outside help.</p>
<p>But by definition, superstardom of the Lady Gaga variety is much more rare today than even 15 years ago. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_albums_(USA)" rel="nofollow">This list of albums that have gone platinum</a> reflects what Chris Anderson wrote about in his book <i>The Long Tail</i>. The air has gone out of the phenomenon of the musician everyone listens to, and the money has gone with it.</p>
<p>This shift has been replaced with more fragmented tastes &#8212; tastes better served financially by a less top-down distribution system and a more networked distribution system.</p>
<p>I would even suggest that Lady Gaga is not earning as much money than, say, Madonna in her prime. </p>
<p>But I&#8217;m not expert. Just an extremely interested bystander. Does anyone in the industry want to comment?</p>
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		<title>By: George Hewitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Hewitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 03:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone name a superstar, household name  Artist or band that has not been signed to a major label with it&#039;s national radio promotion, marketing, and CD and Video distribution capability.  I can&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone name a superstar, household name  Artist or band that has not been signed to a major label with it&#8217;s national radio promotion, marketing, and CD and Video distribution capability.  I can&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: What Would A Garage Band Do? - Digital Solid: Marketing Technology ROI</title>
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		<dc:creator>What Would A Garage Band Do? - Digital Solid: Marketing Technology ROI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 19:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Is the music industry returning to street corner busking? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Digital Solid: Marketing Technology ROI &#187; Today record labels may find digital rights management less easy to defend</title>
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		<dc:creator>Digital Solid: Marketing Technology ROI &#187; Today record labels may find digital rights management less easy to defend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One of the first artists was Issa, formerly known as Jane Siberry. As I&#8217;ve written before, this is an online business model not unlike street corner busking &#8212; in a way returning artists to their performing roots. Radiohead is, however, the most [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] One of the first artists was Issa, formerly known as Jane Siberry. As I&#8217;ve written before, this is an online business model not unlike street corner busking &#8212; in a way returning artists to their performing roots. Radiohead is, however, the most [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Digital Solid: Marketing Technology ROI &#187; Radiohead and Fake Science meet differing fates in the DRM-free tar pit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Digital Solid: Marketing Technology ROI &#187; Radiohead and Fake Science meet differing fates in the DRM-free tar pit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] protection) on the downloads, and the band was basically doing the digital equivalent of busking: Opening their guitar cases to collect whatever money listeners want to throw their way. (They also [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dave Hughes Music &#187; Online Busking!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Hughes Music &#187; Online Busking!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] favourites. I read about the idea of &#8220;Online Busking&#8221; on quite a few websites here and there, notably Alun Parry who gave a really good introduction to it. So, the rough idea of it is: I will [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] favourites. I read about the idea of &#8220;Online Busking&#8221; on quite a few websites here and there, notably Alun Parry who gave a really good introduction to it. So, the rough idea of it is: I will [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 00:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron, 

You bring up a good point. Major label execs haven&#039;t been known as the torchbearers for change. 

On the other hand, if a new business model can demonstrate strong incentive, (e.g. dollars and cents) I&#039;d be surprised if I didn&#039;t see Major Label execs clamoring to ride the money train. 

Thinking from the label&#039;s perspective - where there&#039;s a will there’s a way. I believe that there are win-win solutions available that can complete the entertainment trifecta of consumers, producers, and financiers. 

The problem comes from one party abusing the other. It wasn&#039;t too long ago that CD sales climbed to 21.99 for new releases. It was that kind of abuse that gave piracy a forceful shove forward. 

If we can create a plan that creates fairness, i see no reason why we won&#039;t get what we&#039;re after.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron, </p>
<p>You bring up a good point. Major label execs haven&#8217;t been known as the torchbearers for change. </p>
<p>On the other hand, if a new business model can demonstrate strong incentive, (e.g. dollars and cents) I&#8217;d be surprised if I didn&#8217;t see Major Label execs clamoring to ride the money train. </p>
<p>Thinking from the label&#8217;s perspective &#8211; where there&#8217;s a will there’s a way. I believe that there are win-win solutions available that can complete the entertainment trifecta of consumers, producers, and financiers. </p>
<p>The problem comes from one party abusing the other. It wasn&#8217;t too long ago that CD sales climbed to 21.99 for new releases. It was that kind of abuse that gave piracy a forceful shove forward. </p>
<p>If we can create a plan that creates fairness, i see no reason why we won&#8217;t get what we&#8217;re after.</p>
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